MBS MID-DAY: Green Start Turns Red
By:
Matthew Graham
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MBS Live: MBS Morning Market Summary
Bond markets are in a bad way... One constant theme we're hearing from traders has been the liquidity problems. That means that bets are all over the board (volume can be high even when liquidity is low, if traders aren't on the same page, and they're not). This also makes for bigger swings when sellers decide to hit the bid of buyers or buyers decide to lift the offer from sellers. A nice tight distance between buyers and sellers = more liquidity and less volatility. A huge, panicky, all-over-the-board distance means, well... it means we're getting what we're getting. Severe losses that seemingly make no sense given the economic data and further pain for rate sheets.
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Morning Reprice Alerts and Updates
Below is a recap of instant Reprice Alerts and updates issued via email and text alert to MBS Live subscribers this morning.
11:07AM :
ALERT ISSUED:
10's Break Technical Ceiling, MBS Follow Lower, Negative Reprice Risk
The technical boundaries mentioned in the last alert were broken, and as feared, there is a good amount of follow through selling. Not sure where this will stop yet, but 10's already up to 2.47's and Fannie 3.5's pushing 101-00. Negative reprices are coming, probably widespread.
10:44AM :
ALERT ISSUED:
Risking Unfriendly Resistance Bounce, and Negative Reprices
After some brisk selling into the 9:30am equities open, bond markets met with decent support (though followed by decent resistance at 2.42 in 10's. MBS ground their way back to unchanged levels but have already given up two ticks to sit at 101-13 in Fannie 3.5s.
We're relatively interested in 2.42 in 10yr yields at the moment. If it continues to pose "floor problems" for 10's, MBS may continue to languish. If 2.42 looks like it's motivating a bounce (which it sort of does), MBS may move back lower. If it remains unbroken for the rest of the day, it would be a substantially negative technical indication, and set off bearish weekly technical signals.
Stay cautious here if you have something lockable and haven't already seen a reprice. Recent rate sheets (after the initial selling spree) aren't at much risk, but given recent volatility, that could change much more quickly than normal.
As a final note, the hope is that the previous high yields in 10's are the upper end of a range that will hold through the day. If 2.455 breaks however, things could get dicey. So keep an eye on that level as well. (to simplify: Under 2.42 = best, 2.42-2.455 = ok, over 2.455 = bad, over 2.455 in active trading before 3pm = worst).
We're relatively interested in 2.42 in 10yr yields at the moment. If it continues to pose "floor problems" for 10's, MBS may continue to languish. If 2.42 looks like it's motivating a bounce (which it sort of does), MBS may move back lower. If it remains unbroken for the rest of the day, it would be a substantially negative technical indication, and set off bearish weekly technical signals.
Stay cautious here if you have something lockable and haven't already seen a reprice. Recent rate sheets (after the initial selling spree) aren't at much risk, but given recent volatility, that could change much more quickly than normal.
As a final note, the hope is that the previous high yields in 10's are the upper end of a range that will hold through the day. If 2.455 breaks however, things could get dicey. So keep an eye on that level as well. (to simplify: Under 2.42 = best, 2.42-2.455 = ok, over 2.455 = bad, over 2.455 in active trading before 3pm = worst).
9:35AM :
ALERT ISSUED:
Nostalgic Feelings... of Pain; MBS into Negative Territory
For those of you with overnight price protection or who otherwise have access to yesterday's rates, just a quick note that the 9:30am hustle and bustle has taken MBS into negative territory. Fannie 3.5s hit 101-12 at their lowest just moments ago. Liquidity is suffering, so trying to pin down a bounce is tricky business. Watching 10's instead, it looks like the question is 'to hold or not to hold 2.44.' Looks like "not" at the moment, so MBS selling should continue for now.
9:29AM :
Overnight Gains Drying up. Still in Positive Territory, Hoping For Support
Overnight Treasuries had an exceptionally calm night in the context of recent volatility. Trading levels remained not only inside yesterday's levels, but didn't even venture outside the narrow range of yields seen in the last 3 hours of the trading day.
10's began the night slightly higher, grinding between 2.42 and 2.44 before the increased liquidity of the EU session brought better buying. Yields made it down to 2.38 before finding a floor there just after 5am, and again at 8:15am. 10's are currently testing domestic session highs at 2.421.
MBS opened a few ticks improved from yesterday's latest levels, added to those gains into the Treasury bounce and similarly followed the move back to the weak side. Though still in positive territory, Fannie 3.5s are off their 101-26 highs, now up only 3 ticks on the day at 101-17.
S&Ps are set to open about 10 pts higher after a docile overnight session. Since typing the last paragraph, 10yr futures volumes are spiking a bit as yields press upward closer to 2.43 and MBS come under another few ticks of pressure. 10's are in the red now, and MBS are only a tick or two in the green.
10's began the night slightly higher, grinding between 2.42 and 2.44 before the increased liquidity of the EU session brought better buying. Yields made it down to 2.38 before finding a floor there just after 5am, and again at 8:15am. 10's are currently testing domestic session highs at 2.421.
MBS opened a few ticks improved from yesterday's latest levels, added to those gains into the Treasury bounce and similarly followed the move back to the weak side. Though still in positive territory, Fannie 3.5s are off their 101-26 highs, now up only 3 ticks on the day at 101-17.
S&Ps are set to open about 10 pts higher after a docile overnight session. Since typing the last paragraph, 10yr futures volumes are spiking a bit as yields press upward closer to 2.43 and MBS come under another few ticks of pressure. 10's are in the red now, and MBS are only a tick or two in the green.
Live Chat Featured Comments
A recap of the featured comments from the MBS Live Dashboard's Live Chat feature, utilized by hundreds of industry professionals each day.
Jason Anker : "its risk mitigation, UW is looking for proof prior to just to make sure. "
Jason Anker : "Joe you need to pay prior to close bc your UW want to see the Dist. to verify it is in fact paid and released. Sure paying at close does the same thing BUT they wont have proof that it has been released so they wont let you do it at close. "
Michael Gillani : "Plus the loan doesn't get endorsed by HUD until 30-90 days after funding anyway so definitely should be no issue with paying judgement at closing."
Michael Gillani : "I would take that to management Joe. Shouldn't be a problem. Most lender's pipelines are experiencing epic fallout right now on unlocked files so if it's locked, I would imagine they will move mountains to get it closed without delay, especially for month end."
Joe Bydzovsky : "according to the handbook, 4155.1 4.C.2.e : court-ordered judgments must be paid off before the mortgage loan is eligible for FHA insurance endorsement. so.. this does not specify if it can/can't be paid at close.. I would assume my UW's interpretation is that it does need to be paid prior to.. which will be an issue.. "
REFI BOM : "May be lender specific JB.... FHA allows judgements/liens to be paid off at closing with a payoff letter "
Steven Stone : "theres no FHA rule against that"
Joe Bydzovsky : "is it NOT ok to pay off a judgment at closing on a fha cash out refi? borrower has a $500 default judgment on him.. he is willing to pay at closing but according to UW needs to be paid prior to close. It is not on title.. he would pay it before closing but they will only mail a SAT and we wont have it for a few weeks.. was scheduled to close monday. "
Matthew Graham : "there's a lesson there, I think"
Noah Thompson : "several investors saying this is way over done but yet it keeps getting worse."
FPH : "Oh wow. Short lived green"
William Hansen : "We just cant win. "
Drexel Hill Mortgage, Inc. : "oh boy here we go"
Matt Hodges : "the correct answer is 5%"
Matt Hodges : "seems reasonable"
Matthew Graham : "Kolko says rates need to go to 10.5% to derail housing recovery. I'll let you draw your own conclusions"
Andrew Horowitz : "remember they have to be confirmed by congress so yes i agree with the look at me analogy"
William Packer : "Mg is right "
Matthew Graham : ""look at me world! I'm all about the mandate!""
Matthew Graham : "Bullard making a tacit bid for Chair"
John Tassios : "Finally a FED governor that makes common sense / I will post Bullards comments he just released and says FED made too many mistakes how it released info to the markets / I agree with him 100% / SOURCE : Bloomberg News Wire "
Ken Crute : "JT they have a pretty decent HARP product line "
John Tassios : "I never used them CS / but I am curious / Are they a good jumbo lender with good rates?"
Christopher Stevens : "for those that use NewPenn... http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/20/rmbs-ranieri-moodys-idUSL2N0EW1TD20130620"
Michael Gillani : "It's Friday, not a good day to hope for or expect a positive turnaround in MBS or treasuries., especially after a 500+ pt sell off in the Dow over the past 2 days. I see equities in the green with a little rebound today and bonds/mbs sideways at best but most likely with another afternoon sell off, probably due to low liquidity. I hope i'm wrong though."
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