MBS RECAP: 2/16/2011
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Afternoon Market Updates
A recap of MBS Market Updates provided by MND Analysts and streamed live to the MBSonMND Dashboard
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3:42PM :
Shiller Says Watchout for Another Housing Bubble
(Dow Jones)--A depressed housing market has been an intractable legacy of the financial crisis, but economist Robert Shiller--who famously presaged the housing bust--says speculative activity could lead to a new bubble. While cautioning that housing prices are more likely to "stay in the doldrums for years," Shiller sees an alternative scenario in which the sector's deep correction could overshoot on the way back up. "People are much more speculative, so there is a possibility of another housing bubble," the Yale University economist told Dow Jones in an interview
this week. Government policies that continue to encourage lower and middle-class home-ownership are also part of the problem, he added. "It's possible that in a few years it gets cleared out and it's off to the
races again," he said. "This is not my forecast, but it could happen."
However, Shiller thinks the housing sector has a long way to go before that
scenario unfolds. Recent data from real-estate website Zillow.com illustrated
that home values have plummeted 26% from their June 2006 peak--worse than the approximately 25.9% seen during the Great Depression. "Home price bubbles of such magnitude are rare," Shiller said. "This national bubble was a big anomaly and it might not happen again for several years." As a result, the overhang currently being experienced by the market will be particularly hard to shake, he added.
3:03PM :
FNCL 4.5's Off The Lows As Bond Market Moderates
Although the initial move following the FOMC minutes was a negative one for bonds, benchmark 10yr treasuries were able to hold on to previous support levels at 3.65 and have since moderated to 3.621. FNCL 4.5's are up several ticks from their lows back into more traveled territory at 100-25. For now, it looks like many lenders will be able to forgo repricing for the worse.
2:29PM :
New MBS Commentary Post
2:21PM :
FOMC Minutes: Weak Labor Market Drags on Recovery
The minutes of the Jan.26-27th FOMC meeting have been released. The minutes note that Board members are becoming more confident on the prospects for an economic recovery but remain defensive of anemic growth in the labor market. The Board recognizes the potential for rising energy and food prices to creep into core inflation metrics but says underlying trends indicate inflationary pressures remain subdued. On the topic of QEII, a few members were unsure of the program's impact but felt changes were not appropriate at this time. If consumer demand sustains a rapid recovery pace, the Fed will be forced to reconsider their expansionary monetary policies. Downside risks include a structurally weak jobs outlook, a stagnant housing market, and headline risks associated with European debt and U.S. municipal bonds. In their discussion the Fed did speak on one of MND's hot topics, high levels of productivity and anemic wage growth. Quote, "Available measures of labor compensation showed that labor cost pressures were still restrained, as wage increases slowed along with inflation and productivity gains appeared to remain substantial." MND believes this is a sign of a structurally impaired labor market that when combined with rising living expenses will only serve to reduce consumer spending in the year ahead (margin squeeze).
2:11PM :
ALERT:
10's Move To Test High Yields Following FOMC. MBS At New Lows
Any time MBS push down to new lows, we have to entertain the risk of reprices for the worse. There have been a lot of alerts today, but volatility has been high. Though this live update will be filed as an alert, the post FOMC minutes bond market story is far from over. The initial reaction is not great. 10yr notes have risen in yield to test recent highs from this morning, but so far have not broken them. FNCL 4.5's are at their lows of the day, but only by a tick, currently down 9 at 100-22. The longer that 3.65 holds, the better the chance that it will continue to hold, which will hopefully pacify the MBS market to a sufficient extent to make some gains back into this morning's range. But if 3.65 is broken, MBS losses may well continue.
1:56PM :
MBS Remain Near Lows As FOMC Minutes Approach
FNCL 4.5's are currently down 7 ticks on the day at 100-25, close to the lowest levels of the day after the geopolitical flight to safety bid came and went. 10yr notes are at 3.625 and would be hoping to break into the 3.59's if markets see hints that inflation is under control and no ramping up of indications of short term rate hikes.
1:08PM :
ALERT:
MBS Back At Lows As Overall Bond Market Falls Quickly
10yr notes have backed up quickly, reaching 3.631 from 3.58+ in just a few minutes. FNCL 4.5's are at their lows AGAIN at 100-24. That means reprice risk is back AGAIN! Yes, it's a volatile day, and it's not over yet with FOMC less than an hour away!
12:33PM :
ALERT:
Bond Markets Benefit From Flight-To-Safety Bid
In recent news, Israel said that two Iranian warships planned to sail through the Suez which the Israeli PM called a provocation. Bonds have benefited from this geopolitical drama with the 10yr now ticking under 3.60 and MBS rapidly rising to 100-28. This alleviates previous reprice risk.
12:05PM :
New MBS Commentary Post
11:54AM :
ALERT:
MBS Tick Down To New Lows, AGAIN Increasing Reprice Risk
Reprices for the worse are a serious risk once again as MBS widen versus treasuries and FNCL 4.5's tick down to the lows of the day at 100-24. The 10yr note by comparison is mid-range at 3.619.
11:39AM :
BoE rate hike seen in Q4 but could be sooner - RTRS
The Bank of England will probably not hike interest rates until the fourth quarter of this year but the proportion of analysts expecting an earlier move to curb soaring inflation is rising, a Reuters poll showed on Wednesday. *** REUTERS POLL-BOE SEEN RAISING RATES TO 0.75 PCT IN Q4 (SAME AS FEB 9 POLL) *** 10 OF 50 ANALYSTS SEE BOE HIKE BEFORE JULY (8 OF 71 IN FEB 9 POLL) *** 22 OF 50 ANALYSTS SEE BOE HIKE BEFORE OCTOBER (24 OF 70 IN FEB 9 POLL)
11:29AM :
Support Comes In and Prices On The Rise, Easing Reprice Risks
Although the10yr yield did creep up to 3.65, it put in more high side bounces around 3.64 and has since fallen to 3.625. This is "close enough" to consider support to have held, even if only by the skin of its teeth. FNCL 4.5's are back at their pivot point of 100-26 in FNCL 4.5's which reduces risks of widespread reprices for the worse.
11:22AM :
New MBS Commentary Post
Featured Market Discussion
A recap of the featured comments from the Live Discussion on the MBSonMND Dashboard
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Jason York : "well I jsut verified that JR is correct, for once, you only have to have a rated disability are exempt"
John Rodgers : "no percentage"
John Rodgers : "just has to be rated"
John Rodgers : "just rated as disabled waives the funding fee"
John Rodgers : "disability "
Jason York : "rating?"
John Rodgers : "FYI - it doesnt matter what the Vets rating is. "
Matt Hodges : "Vets are my best customers - they have good credit, they get conditions to you quickly without questioning why and are grateful at the end of the day"
Steven Bote : "VA is such a great loan for the right borrower, let me tell ya."
Jason York : "correct, and you can go up to $1 million"
Steven Bote : "A guy in my office is doing a VA jumbo at $510k. The VA only needs to put down 25% of the amount over the GSEs limit, which is basically 5% down no PMI. That's kray kray right there."
Gus Floropoulos : "Its funny bc typically u see no reprice for the better when the mkt moves up 8-10 tix, however quite the opposite when the mkt is selling off....dont hold ur breath, but if treasuries stay strong I think we will survive the declines in MBS"
Mike Drews : "alot of investors priced late today though...we're only 2 ticks down from 9:00am"
Matthew Graham : "yeah, and look at the series of progressively lower lows! even more of a head-scratcher"
Gus Floropoulos : "interesting how we have had a 10 tick movement in 4.5's and no significant reprices...good sign imo"
Matthew Graham : "Sweet! congrats Mike!"
Michael Stark : "Hey MG - So a guy here really blew up a deal and legal made us honor a no cost rate quote from like September. was costing the branch over $18k a few weeks ago. Using our knowledge and data here I talked him into waiting and he shaved that loss down to less than $10k by locking today. So there you go - a savings of over $5k thanks to the WR"
Matthew Graham : "FED SAID FASTER-THAN-EXPECTED SNAP-BACK IN DEMAND POSED POSSIBLE UPSIDE RISK "
Matthew Graham : "FED SAW EUROPE SPILLOVER, ONGOING MUNICIPAL BOND WOES, HOUSING WEAKNESS AS DOWNSIDE RISKS TO RECOVERY "
Matthew Graham : "FED STAFF MADE PRESENTATION ON STRUCTURAL UNEMPLOYMENT, POLICYMAKERS DISAGREED ON LIKELY EFFECT OF POLICY ON JOBS "
Matthew Graham : "A FEW MEMBERS SAID ANY NEW DATA SHOWING STRONG RECOVERY COULD JUSTIFY REDUCING PACE OR SIZE OF BOND PURCHASES "
Matthew Graham : "A FEW MEMBERS WERE UNSURE OF LIKELY EFFECTS OF BOND BUYING PROGRAM, BUT FELT CHANGES AT THIS TIME NOT APPROPRIATE "
Matthew Graham : "POLICYMAKERS SAID RECENT DATA HAS NOT LED THEM TO SIGNIFICANTLY CHANGE GROWTH, INFLATION OUTLOOKS "
Matthew Graham : "SOME SAW UPSIDE INFLATION RISKS FROM ENERGY, COMMODITY PRICES, OTHERS SAID PASS THROUGH IN U.S. "FAIRLY SMALL" "
Matthew Graham : "INFLATION EXPECTED TO REMAIN SUBDUED, CORE INFLATION TO REMAIN CLOSE TO CURRENT LEVELS IN COMING QUARTERS "
Matthew Graham : "DOWNSIDE RISKS TO FORECASTS HAD DIMINISHED, JOBLESS RATE TO DECLINE ONLY SLOWLY"
Matthew Graham : "FED OFFICIALS HAD GROWING CONFIDENCE IN U.S. RECOVERY BUT PACE NOT FAST ENOUGH TO LOWER JOBLESS RATE SIGNIFICANTLY - MINUTES
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Matthew Graham : "Minutes CAN BE significant if people think they see clues to how their stance might be changing"
Matthew Graham : "traders always looking for a way to get inside the Fe'd head"
Steven Bote : "I mean, it's just the minutes, no--we already know the outcome of the last meeting...?"
Steven Bote : "What are we thinking as far as FOMC minutes: is there really anything that could result in a facemelter or firesale, either way?"
Matthew Graham : "allowing us to play our pieces differently than we otherwise would"
Matthew Graham : "it means that chess piece is off the table for now"
Matthew Graham : "and even when it's an uneventful unsurprising non-issue, that still means something"
Matthew Graham : "in other words... It's FOMC Minutes... It's potent and powerful"
Matthew Graham : "well, it's not necessarily that I'm expecting anything market moving from it, but it has to come and go without detrimental impact in order to be bond market positive if that makes any sense"
Matthew Graham : "very volatile"
Bromi Krock : "volatile day or what"
Jason Evans : "In this new interpretation, the Fed says all borrower paid compensation has to go through the broker owner. And the broker owner can only pay the employee based on a salary or hourly wage.
The Fed's overall compensation rule, which goes into effect April 1, generally allows loan officers to be paid based on a set percentage of the loan amount. In cases where the consumer agrees to pay the LO directly, the LO cannot receive compensation from other sources -- the wholesaler or its employer.
It"
Jason Evans : "anyone hear about this: "The Federal Reserve Board late last week handed down a new interpretation that places tough compensation restrictions on transactions where the borrower agrees to pay the loan officer of a mortgage brokerage firm directly.
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Matt Hodges : "yes, up to 540 days Chris"
Mike Drews : "wells, usbank, sunrust"
Mike Drews : "famc"
Chris Maas : "anyone in the correspondent world have any investors that do extended locks outside 120 days (besides Chase)?"
Curt Sandfort : "and that is why I love the WR!"
Curt Sandfort : "just arriving and scrolling to see what's happening....well I still don't know what's happening, but I'm loving the power of grayskull and chix sammy"
Adam Quinones : "more day trading in MBS market...."
Mike Drews : "why?"
Adam Quinones : "yes we just widened out a bit "
Bromi Krock : "looks like treasuries are out performing mbs"